A Vision Reported by Heber & Vilate Kimball
Across cultures the nature of visionary experience is elusive at best. One cannot easily capture that nature by casting either a religious or a psychological net. About the best we can do, as outside spectators, is gaze upon such claims in wonder, as if visionary records were works of art. Like any piece of art, perhaps one can infer meaning, or perhaps there is no meaning at all. Perhaps such events are ultimately private, and any derived meaning must be limited to the visionary or seer. Maybe the historian has license to examine the impact of such spiritual experiences on the seer and the surrounding society. Thus, I approach with caution the amazing visionary tale of Heber and Vilate Kimball that was experienced in 1827, years before they joined with Joseph Smith and the Mormons. Whatever was the nature of their special experience, it set the tone for the rest of their adult lives. Their portending vision of an army in the sky helped set the stage for a forthcoming "religious battle" – the latter-day movement known as Mormonism.
Before getting to the vision itself, let’s discuss the date and the place.
The date of the event was September 22, 1827, the same date that Joseph Smith obtained the gold plates associated with the Book of Mormon from the Angel Moroni. The date also was associated with the Hebrew Feast of Trumpets. Are these events a coincidence? Heber C. Kimball, most likely, would think not.
The place of the event was Mendon (Monroe County), New York, about 17 miles southwest of Palmyra (according to Google). This location would become a strong branch of the Church (circa 1832) having not only the Kimballs, but also Brigham Young and many members of his extended family.
The following is an 1864 extract taken from the journal of Heber C. Kimball published in a British newspaper by the Church. The details give the feel that the tale had been told many times.
Heber C. Kimball, Journal Extract in Millennial Star vol. 26, no. 31 (July 30, 1864), pp. 487–488.
Sept. 22, 1827, while living in the town of Mendon, I having retired to bed, John P. Greene, a travelling reformed Methodist preacher, waked me up calling upon me to behold the scenery in the heavens. I called my wife and sister Fanny Young (sister of Brigham Young) who was living with me; it was so clear that you could see to pick up a pin, we looked to the eastern horizon and beheld a white smoke arise towards the heavens, and as it ascended it formed itself into a belt and made a noise like the rustling of a mighty wind, and continued southwest, forming a regular bow dipping in the western horizon. After the bow had formed it began to widen out and grow clear and transparent of a bluish cast, it grew wide enough to contain twelve men abreast. In this bow an army moved, commencing from the east and marching to the west. They moved in platoons, and walked so close, the rear ranks trod in the steps of their file leaders, until the whole bow was literally crowded with soldiers. We could see distinctly the muskets, bayonets, and knapsacks of the men, who wore caps and feathers like those used by the American soldiers in the last war with Britain; also their officers with their swords and equipage, and heard the clashing and jingling of their instruments of war and could discover the form and features of the men. The most profound order existed throughout the entire army, when the foremost man stepped, every man stepped at the same time: I could hear the step. When the front rank reached the Western horizon a battle ensued, as we could distinctly hear the report of the arms and the rush.
No man could judge of my feelings when I beheld that army of men, as plainly as I ever saw armies of men in the flesh it seemed as though every hair of my head was alive. This scenery was gazed upon for hours, until it began to disappear.
Subsequently I learned this took place the same evening that Joseph Smith received the records of the Book of Mormon from the Angel Moroni. John Young, Sen., and John P. Green's wife, Rhoda, were also witnesses of this scenery. My wife, Vilate, being frightened at what she saw, said, "Father Young, what does all this mean?" He replied in a lively, pleased manner, "Why, its one of the signs of the coming of the Son of Man." The next night similar scenery was beheld in the west, by the neighbors, representing armies of men who were engaged in battle.
Heber's wife, Vilate M. Kimball, published her version of the story in 1877. The correspondence between Vilate's version and Heber's version again suggests mutual influence and rehearsal of the story through multiple retellings.
From: "Autobiography of Vilate Kimball" published in: Edward W. Tullidge, The Women of Mormondom (New York, 1877), pp. 104-115.
Here I will relate a marvelous incident, of date previous to our entering the Church.
On the night of the 22nd of September, 1827, while living in the town of Mendon, after we retired to bed, John P. Green, who was then a traveling Reformed Methodist preacher, living within one hundred steps of our house, came and called my husband to come out and see the sight in the heavens. Heber awoke me, and Sister Fanny Young (sister of Brigham), who was living with us, and we all went out-of- doors.
It was one of the most beautiful starlight nights so clear we could see to pick up a pin. We looked to the eastern horizon, and beheld a white smoke arise towards the heavens. As it ascended, it formed into a belt, and made a noise like the rushing wind, and continued southwest, forming a regular bow, dipping in the western horizon.
After the bow had formed, it began to widen out, growing transparent, of a bluish cast. It grew wide enough to contain twelve men abreast. In this bow an army moved, commencing from the east and marching to the west. They continued moving until they reached the western horizon. They moved in platoons, and walked so close the rear ranks trod in the steps of their file leaders, until the whole bow was literally crowded with soldiers.
We could distinctly see the muskets, bayonets and knapsacks of the men, who wore caps and feathers like those used by the American soldiers in the last war with Great Britain. We also saw their officers with their swords and equipage, and heard the clashing and jingling of their instruments of war, and could discern the form and features of the men. The most profound order existed throughout the entire army. When the foremost man stepped, every man stepped at the same time. We could hear their steps.
When the front rank reached the western horizon, a battle ensued, as we could hear the report of the arms, and the rush.
None can judge of our feelings as we beheld this army of spirits as plainly as ever armies of men were seen in the flesh. Every hair of our heads seemed alive.
We gazed upon this scenery for hours, until it began to disappear.
After we became acquainted with Mormonism, we learned that this took place the same evening that Joseph Smith received the records of the Book of Mormon from the angel Moroni, who had held those records in his possession.
Father Young, and John P. Green's wife (Brigham's sister Rhoda), were also witnesses of this marvelous scene. Frightened at what we saw, I said, Father Young, what does all this mean? He answered, "Why it is one of the signs of the coming of the Son of Man."
The next night a similar scene was beheld in the west, by the neighbors, representing armies of men engaged in battle.
As told by Heber and Vilate, the story is most impressive. By their account, there were multiple witnesses. However, I am unaware of any further accounts from witnesses of this event in Mendon. John P. Green, one of the mentioned witnesses, later joined the Church. The Guide to Mormon Diaries & Autobiographies (Bitton, 1977) lists a very short missionary diary from Greene in 1833, which does not likely contain any references to the 1827 event.
But, the overall story is not finished. It gets a bit stranger.
The above event recorded by Heber and Vilate Kimball got a sustaining vote (so to speak) from Brigham Young. The reason is that Brigham, himself, witnessed something strange in the sky during the same night. However, please note that Brigham Young was NOT in Mendon at the time. He was in Port Byron, New York, about 50 miles to the east.
The following description of the Brigham Young account was published in a recent Ensign by Marjorie Rice. The reference she provided was: " General Church Minutes 1839–1877, Jan. 8, 1845, Archives of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." Other reports sometimes reference: the unpublished minutes of the Young-Richards family meeting, Nauvoo, 18 Jan. 1845. I will leave it to other historians to sort out the discrepancies (since I do not have access to the Church archives). Here is the fascinating summary by Rice:
Marjorie H. Rice, “Living in a Chapter of History,” Ensign, Oct 2007, pp. 56–61.
Brigham Young, who at that time was not acquainted with Heber, described what he had seen the same evening: “There was a great light in the East and it went to the West and it was very bright although [there was] no moon at that time.” As he gazed at it with his wife, Miriam, they saw “great armies” marching across the night sky. The vision was “perfectly clear,” and it remained for several hours.
Heber and Brigham and their family members who witnessed the amazing scene felt it must have been a sign from God, but they did not know its meaning. Neither Heber nor Brigham knew the Prophet Joseph Smith or that he had received the gold plates containing the Book of Mormon that same day at the Hill Cumorah, just 20 miles to the east.
The following year, Brigham Young and Miriam moved to Mendon, New York, where Brigham’s father, stepmother, and several of his siblings were already living. Brigham built a home and mill shop on his father’s farm, less than a half mile northeast of where Heber Kimball and his wife, Vilate, lived. Brigham and Heber, just 13 days apart in age, and their wives, just 6 days apart, soon became close friends.
What are we to conclude? Was this 1827 event a mass hallucination from two different locations? Is it possible that the Youngs and the Kimballs influenced each other's stories in later years, once they got to know each other? Must one posit a conspiracy theory to account for these stories? Was this event perhaps merely a result of dancing lights in the sky (UFO theory) with some special effects from the imagination? Or, was it a portending spiritual event to prepare important future leaders of the Church?
Science and history cannot answer the above questions. However, these stories are a legitimate part of our LDS cultural heritage. We honor these stories, not by turning them into scientific reality, but by recognizing their significance in the shaping of early religious conviction. Without question, the event, whatever it was, provided a grounding for the growing seed of the Church.
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8 comments:
S., while I don't begin to understand what they saw or what it meant, I can confirm that the two sources for Brigham Young's account are the same document, regardless of the different methods of citing: Rice has cited the entire collection of minutes (sort of like citing to the full "Journal of Discourses"), while the other authors have cited to a specific document within that collection (like citing to a specific volume and page in the "Journal of Discourses").
I never know what to think about "signs" like these. I want to believe that they saw *something,* that they didn't make it up either deliberately or unintentially (as through hysteria), but I don't know what they saw. To me, a visual heavenly sign is kind of like the aural gift of tongues -- unless there is a reliable interpreter, of what value is it? ("One of the signs of the coming of the Son of Man" is singularly unhelpful and unreliable to me -- how is it a sign of his coming? who says?) Why that sign? Why to these people?
As always, you've pulled together some thought-provoking material. I just don't know what thoughts it ought to be provoking!
Ardis:
Thanks much for your response and clarifications. Actually, I was hoping you would read this and provide some help.
Perhaps I allow my academic training to influence my interpretations too much, but it seems a cautious interpretation is prudent, even if NOT very exciting.
Yes, I was hoping to be provoking, even if my desire is for readers to come to their own conclusions. As for me, I find the 1827 event to be both fascinating and baffling.
I had read about this account before, but had never read Heber/Vilate's own words. Thanks for the text.
Both Heber C. Kimball and Brigham Young were foreordained to accomplish many important tasks in mortality. It comes as no surprise that they were close enough to the spirit throughout their lives that their faith allowed them to be privy to such visions.
Hath the day of miracles and visions ceased? Nay, only the faith of man dimished.
To me, witnessing visions like this only serve to solidify the already staunch faith of these two men. They just needed to subsequently channel that faith correctly - enter Joseph Smith.
Thanks, Jeremy, for reminding me of the concept of foreordination. Have you seen the movie KNOWING?
Adris always has something to say and her comments on source citations is good.
Then she gets off track.
Ardis says with dismay "...To me, a visual heavenly sign is kind of like the aural gift of tongues -- unless there is a reliable interpreter, of what value is it? ("One of the signs of the coming of the Son of Man" is singularly unhelpful and unreliable to me -- how is it a sign of his coming? who says?) Why that sign? Why to these people?"
Interestingly, a verse from Jeremiah 10:2 sheds light on these questons.
Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven...
The prophet Daniel also comments on God's signs and wonders
Dan. 6: 27
He delivereth and rescueth, and he worketh signs and wonders in heaven and in earth...
In Matthew 24, Jesus himself fortells his own return. Note the elements in common with the Kimballs' accounts.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Other Scriptures also refer to wonders in heaven. But they don't give a lot of specifics. Perhaps that's the nature of wonders- they make you wonder.
Luke 21: 11
And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
Acts 2: 19
And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
Hel. 14: 6
And behold this is not all, there shall be many signs and wonders in heaven.
As for the question "why these people?" the following scripture (which, although, hadn't been received in 1827, ) answers the question nicely, and shouldn't be discounted.
D&C 45: 39,40 And it shall come to pass that he that feareth me shall be looking forth for the great day of the Lord to come, even for the signs of the coming of the Son of Man.
40 And they shall see signs and wonders, for they shall be shown forth in the heavens above, and in the earth beneath.
If you want a more specific interpretation
Look for any modern authoritative statements. Have any other apostles, church leaders, scholars or relevant people mentioned this manifestation? Someone may have offered a meaningful interpretation already, and if not, don't dismay.
Ardis claims
"unless there is a reliable interpreter, of what value is it?"
The value may be simply because... It's beautiful. It instills wonder and awe in the bosom of man for the works of our creator. I like the comparison of visionary records to works of art. "Like any piece of art, perhaps one can infer meaning". Art has value even without a given interpretation. Art can also have layers of interpretations. So why should wonders in heaven be limited?
Adris always has something to say and her comments on source citations is good.
Then she gets off track.
Ardis says with dismay "...To me, a visual heavenly sign is kind of like the aural gift of tongues -- unless there is a reliable interpreter, of what value is it? ("One of the signs of the coming of the Son of Man" is singularly unhelpful and unreliable to me -- how is it a sign of his coming? who says?) Why that sign? Why to these people?"
Interestingly, a verse from Jeremiah 10:2 sheds light on these questons.
Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven...
The prophet Daniel also comments on God's signs and wonders
Dan. 6: 27
He delivereth and rescueth, and he worketh signs and wonders in heaven and in earth...
In Matthew 24, Jesus himself fortells his own return. Note the elements in common with the Kimballs' accounts.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Other Scriptures also refer to wonders in heaven. But they don't give a lot of specifics. Perhaps that's the nature of wonders- they make you wonder.
Luke 21: 11
And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
Acts 2: 19
And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
Hel. 14: 6
And behold this is not all, there shall be many signs and wonders in heaven.
As for the question "why these people?" the following scripture (which, although, hadn't been received in 1827, ) answers the question nicely, and shouldn't be discounted.
D&C 45: 39,40 And it shall come to pass that he that feareth me shall be looking forth for the great day of the Lord to come, even for the signs of the coming of the Son of Man.
40 And they shall see signs and wonders, for they shall be shown forth in the heavens above, and in the earth beneath.
If you want a more specific interpretation
Look for any modern authoritative statements. Have any other apostles, church leaders, scholars or relevant people mentioned this manifestation? Someone may have offered a meaningful interpretation already, and if not, don't dismay.
Ardis claims
"unless there is a reliable interpreter, of what value is it?"
The value may be simply because... It's beautiful. It instills wonder and awe in the bosom of man for the works of our creator. I like the comparison of visionary records to works of art. "Like any piece of art, perhaps one can infer meaning". Art has value even without a given interpretation. Art can also have layers of interpretations. So why should wonders in heaven be limited?
Adris always has something to say and her comments on source citations is good.
Then she gets off track.
Ardis says with dismay "...To me, a visual heavenly sign is kind of like the aural gift of tongues -- unless there is a reliable interpreter, of what value is it? ("One of the signs of the coming of the Son of Man" is singularly unhelpful and unreliable to me -- how is it a sign of his coming? who says?) Why that sign? Why to these people?"
Interestingly, a verse from Jeremiah 10:2 sheds light on these questons.
Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven...
The prophet Daniel also comments on God's signs and wonders
Dan. 6: 27
He delivereth and rescueth, and he worketh signs and wonders in heaven and in earth...
In Matthew 24, Jesus himself fortells his own return. Note the elements in common with the Kimballs' accounts.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Other Scriptures also refer to wonders in heaven. But they don't give a lot of specifics. Perhaps that's the nature of wonders- they make you wonder.
Luke 21: 11
And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
Acts 2: 19
And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
Hel. 14: 6
And behold this is not all, there shall be many signs and wonders in heaven.
As for the question "why these people?" the following scripture (which, although, hadn't been received in 1827, ) answers the question nicely, and shouldn't be discounted.
D&C 45: 39,40 And it shall come to pass that he that feareth me shall be looking forth for the great day of the Lord to come, even for the signs of the coming of the Son of Man.
40 And they shall see signs and wonders, for they shall be shown forth in the heavens above, and in the earth beneath.
If you want a more specific interpretation
Look for any modern authoritative statements. Have any other apostles, church leaders, scholars or relevant people mentioned this manifestation? Someone may have offered a meaningful interpretation already, and if not, don't dismay.
Ardis claims
"unless there is a reliable interpreter, of what value is it?"
The value may be simply because... It's beautiful. It instills wonder and awe in the bosom of man for the works of our creator. I like the comparison of visionary records to works of art. "Like any piece of art, perhaps one can infer meaning". Art has value even without a given interpretation. Art can also have layers of interpretations. So why should wonders in heaven be limited?
J. Paul:
You have made some good comments, but they are diminished by an unnecessary attack on Ardis. Of course, she can defend herself (and she does it well), but I would say there are few writers in the Church who is more thoughtful and insightful than she is.
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